Jesus and the Sacred Mushrooms
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jho
Joined: Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:46 am Posts: 2303 Location: Illinois
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Eleleth wrote: Jesus represents the serpent fire, the Logos (John 1:1), not a mushroom. This whole idea is silly. John 3:14, the pi verse, we read Quote: And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up ...
The Bible conceals alchemy. the symbolism in the Bible is multilayered, and might have been used by a historic Jesus' gnostic contemporaies as well, a way to keep their knowledge alive for generations. Quote: The Amanita muscaria mushroom, because of its changing form; its symbiotic relationship with pines, oaks and birch trees; and its profound visionary effect makes itself amenable to mystical personification and simile. A few examples of the Amanita Muscaria mushroom in various stages of life underneath its host trees are shown above. In its newborn state, it takes on the appearance of a small dazzling white stone or particle; then a woolly lamb, a constellation of sun, moon and stars, a brilliantly colored ground fruit; a winged bird adorned with a string of pearls around its neck; a sun disk radiating light in all directions; a gold plate upon which is found strange writing and a serpent hanging on a pole. According to those who have consumed this fruit, the visionary state it produces occasions an endowment of divine knowledge and celestial love.   the transmutation of water into wine is said represent the urine of the shaman who consumes amanita muscaria.. seriously.  the grail is said to represent the upturned cap of the mushroom, the wine in this case would be captured rain water or dew.
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Eleleth
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:01 am Posts: 39
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jho wrote: the symbolism in the Bible is multilayered, and might have been used by a historic Jesus' gnostic contemporaies as well, a way to keep their knowledge alive for generations. But do we know what the Gnostics believed? The Naassene text is helpful here. Quote: the transmutation of water into wine is said represent the urine of the shaman who consumes amanita muscaria.. seriously. But look at what you said--it's an alchemical "transmutation". I'm surprised you didn't go for the "living water" quote. Quote: the grail is said to represent the upturned cap of the mushroom, the wine in this case would be captured rain water or dew. I am sure that entheogens do have their significance, but the Divine Spark--the Grail--lies in one's heart, and it is here that one is always focused when on the mystic path. The Grail was often a dish or stone (hinting at the Philosopher's Stone), and Parzival is laden with alchemical symbols. There is just something very dismaying and, moreover, disempowering about changing a simple and elegant symbol of love and grace into a mushroom.
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| Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:47 am |
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teosty
Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:57 am Posts: 530
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we are all entitled to our own opinion but the evidence is there. the soma shamans use it. Manna = magic mushrooms = body of christ = bread of life the evidence is all there. but like i said we are all entilted to our own opinions, i just hope that some silly thing like a core belief in the bible is not what is keeping you from looking into this further. i noticed you mentioned the Philospher's stone watch this seminar, they explain the philosopher's stone 2012 Enochian Alphabet, Sacred Geometry, John Dee Part1
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Eleleth
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:01 am Posts: 39
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teosty wrote: we are all entitled to our own opinion but the evidence is there. the soma shamans use it.
Manna = magic mushrooms = body of christ = bread of life
the evidence is all there. but like i said we are all entilted to our own opinions, i just hope that some silly thing like a core belief in the bible is not what is keeping you from looking into this further. I have no attachment to any dogma at all. Read Jakob Boehme, the Kabbalah, the Bhagavad Gita, the Tao Te Ching, and they all say the same thing...more or less. Quote: i noticed you mentioned the Philospher's stone Why not read a book on alchemy? Herbert Silberer and Carl Jung have gone over the subject without too much obfuscation.
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teosty
Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:57 am Posts: 530
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John Allegro's "The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross" - a Gnostic Media exclusive video
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